"I trained alot [around 1953-54] with Cobrinha Verde. I lived in Cobrinha Verde's house, there in Chame-Chame. In the back yard, with an oil-lamp lit, trained me, Bom Cabrito, trained Gato. Some four or five trained at night at Cobrinha Verde's place, in the back yard. And on Sundays mornings Cobrinha Verde made his roda and in the evening we went to Mestre Pastinha's academy. We played in the back yard of Cobrinha Verde or on the street."
M João Grande (Castro, 2007)